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[Poll #1342002]
I'm trying to get at something here. I'm a Twilight lolfan and I love RPattz cause of how hilarious he is about how much he fucking hates Twilight - but I've found that every legitimate Twilight fan also legitimately loves him, and I find this a total contradiction.
If this was something I loved, Edward was a character I loved, and believed in, and Rob said stuff like the quotes below, I would hate him for it, yet no one does.
"When you read the book," says Pattinson, looking appropriately pallid and interesting even without makeup, "it's like, 'Edward Cullen was so beautiful I creamed myself.' I mean, every line is like that. He's the most ridiculous person who's so amazing at everything. I think a lot of actors tried to play that aspect. I just couldn't do that. And the more I read the script, the more I hated this guy, so that's how I played him, as a manic-depressive who hates himself. Plus, he's a 108-year-old virgin so he's obviously got some issues there."
"When I read it, it seemed like *grimaces* I was convinced that ... Stephenie was ... convinced that she was Bella, and uh, and you, it wasn't, it was like it was a book that wasn't supposed to be published, like reading her ... her sort of sexual fantasy about some -- especially when she says that it was based on a dream, and it's like, "Oh, then I had a dream about this really sexy guy" and she just writes this book about it, and there's some things about Edward that are just so specific that it's like, I was just convinced that, that this woman is mad, she's completely mad, and she's in love with her own fictional creation and I -- sometimes you, like, feel uncomfortable reading this thing, and I think a lot of people feel the same way, that it's kind of voyeuristic, ah, and it creates this sick pleasure in a lot of ways."
"I guess their relationship is about projection. That’s what I found interesting about the story. Bella just projects whatever fantasy she wants onto Edward and he’s just a canvas for whatever she wants him to be. No matter what he says or does, it doesn’t matter to her. I guess in that way it’s kind of a fraudulent relationship."
He hates Edward, he hates the books, he hates Smeyer. Yet legit fans, who love Edward, love the books, and love Smeyer, still love him. This is hypocritical, I think. Can anyone explain this to me? Have they just not read these articles or something?
In related news, I want this:

I'm trying to get at something here. I'm a Twilight lolfan and I love RPattz cause of how hilarious he is about how much he fucking hates Twilight - but I've found that every legitimate Twilight fan also legitimately loves him, and I find this a total contradiction.
If this was something I loved, Edward was a character I loved, and believed in, and Rob said stuff like the quotes below, I would hate him for it, yet no one does.
"When you read the book," says Pattinson, looking appropriately pallid and interesting even without makeup, "it's like, 'Edward Cullen was so beautiful I creamed myself.' I mean, every line is like that. He's the most ridiculous person who's so amazing at everything. I think a lot of actors tried to play that aspect. I just couldn't do that. And the more I read the script, the more I hated this guy, so that's how I played him, as a manic-depressive who hates himself. Plus, he's a 108-year-old virgin so he's obviously got some issues there."
"When I read it, it seemed like *grimaces* I was convinced that ... Stephenie was ... convinced that she was Bella, and uh, and you, it wasn't, it was like it was a book that wasn't supposed to be published, like reading her ... her sort of sexual fantasy about some -- especially when she says that it was based on a dream, and it's like, "Oh, then I had a dream about this really sexy guy" and she just writes this book about it, and there's some things about Edward that are just so specific that it's like, I was just convinced that, that this woman is mad, she's completely mad, and she's in love with her own fictional creation and I -- sometimes you, like, feel uncomfortable reading this thing, and I think a lot of people feel the same way, that it's kind of voyeuristic, ah, and it creates this sick pleasure in a lot of ways."
"I guess their relationship is about projection. That’s what I found interesting about the story. Bella just projects whatever fantasy she wants onto Edward and he’s just a canvas for whatever she wants him to be. No matter what he says or does, it doesn’t matter to her. I guess in that way it’s kind of a fraudulent relationship."
He hates Edward, he hates the books, he hates Smeyer. Yet legit fans, who love Edward, love the books, and love Smeyer, still love him. This is hypocritical, I think. Can anyone explain this to me? Have they just not read these articles or something?
In related news, I want this:

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Date: 2009-02-02 09:28 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-02 10:35 am (UTC)my friend linked to it. how epic.
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Date: 2009-02-02 09:48 am (UTC)it's a conundrum :[
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Date: 2009-02-02 11:00 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-02 11:06 am (UTC)Also, you totes need to get that shirt hahaha.
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Date: 2009-02-03 09:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-04 12:14 am (UTC)I think the reason Edward fans like him is because he DOES play Edward well - and he's omg beautiful. (I suppose) and at the end of the day, he is a lolrus.
Besides, its all about Mike Newton! <3
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Date: 2009-02-02 11:07 am (UTC)And I own a copy of Twilight but I never got around to reading it before the fandom blew up, so I never have and probably never will. I do kind of want to see the movie, though.
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Date: 2009-02-02 11:12 am (UTC)I don't understand how legit fans like him, but then again, I don't understand how legit fans exist.
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Date: 2009-02-02 11:25 am (UTC)This, for sure.
Robert insulting the books is probably the only redeeming feature to the whole franchise...
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Date: 2009-02-02 11:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-02 12:38 pm (UTC)I hear your a bit stranded? :p
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Date: 2009-02-02 12:47 pm (UTC)yeah, I am not thrilled about this.
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Date: 2009-02-02 02:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-02 03:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-02 03:33 pm (UTC)Also, I hope you don't mind but I added you. We met at Hoodwink (kind of briefly) and we know a whole load of the same people. I'm Francesca, by the way :)
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Date: 2009-02-02 04:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-02 01:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-02 01:36 pm (UTC)Aaaaaaaaaaand I just borrowed a friend's copy of New Moon! The Twilulz books, they are hilar, but I refuse to give Smeyer a cent of my money.
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Date: 2009-02-02 01:40 pm (UTC)I for one cannot even LOOK at the books. it makes me want to burn them. i think i hate it MORE because so many (WHY??WHY????) people like it.
I now officially term anything bad that gets over-glorified as being a "twilight". rh+ is a twilight. rh+ is a live action adaptation of a VAMPIRE manga. which makes it funnier that its a twlight. (rh+ fails because of the lame acting but the story's alright, though i've never read the manga.)
all "twilights" must possess the quality of either being so bad its funny, or just plain bad, and must MUST have a legit fanbase. or be glorified in general. like. for example. the sun. or something.
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Date: 2009-02-02 04:34 pm (UTC)That said, I don't really care about the back-story around the books or the movies or anything, I just watched my first interview about the movies when I happened to watch Penelope this weekend and there was a special sneak peek thing. I do think it's kinda dumb that RPattz doesn't like anything about the series, or at least that he's so vocal about it.
I have found, frustratingly, that as I re-read Harry Potter and see Cedric Diggory mentioned, I get a little gooey inside. I don't even like Edward OR Bella, I find them both annoying (so I'm not sure why I'm so addicted to the whole thing), but I find RP attractive in certain scenes as Edward.
Anyway this comment has taken far too long to finish, as I'm at work, so I better stop here or I'll never post it.
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Date: 2009-02-02 06:43 pm (UTC)Sarah and Fran love All Time Low, I can't stand them.. So should I not like Fran and Sarah anymore?
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Date: 2009-02-03 09:07 am (UTC)If people legit love the character Edward, which is fine, what I don't get is how they are not mad at Rob for dissing it.
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Date: 2009-02-03 05:57 pm (UTC)But then that doesn't mean anyone who likes Edward should dislike Rob..
People have opinions, doesn't mean you have to stop liking somebody or stop supporting them if everybody did this nobody would be friends..
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Date: 2009-02-04 12:10 am (UTC)