cookiedough: (Twilight - Edward Doubts)
[personal profile] cookiedough
[Poll #1342002]

I'm trying to get at something here. I'm a Twilight lolfan and I love RPattz cause of how hilarious he is about how much he fucking hates Twilight - but I've found that every legitimate Twilight fan also legitimately loves him, and I find this a total contradiction.

If this was something I loved, Edward was a character I loved, and believed in, and Rob said stuff like the quotes below, I would hate him for it, yet no one does.

"When you read the book," says Pattinson, looking appropriately pallid and interesting even without makeup, "it's like, 'Edward Cullen was so beautiful I creamed myself.' I mean, every line is like that. He's the most ridiculous person who's so amazing at everything. I think a lot of actors tried to play that aspect. I just couldn't do that. And the more I read the script, the more I hated this guy, so that's how I played him, as a manic-depressive who hates himself. Plus, he's a 108-year-old virgin so he's obviously got some issues there."

"When I read it, it seemed like *grimaces* I was convinced that ... Stephenie was ... convinced that she was Bella, and uh, and you, it wasn't, it was like it was a book that wasn't supposed to be published, like reading her ... her sort of sexual fantasy about some -- especially when she says that it was based on a dream, and it's like, "Oh, then I had a dream about this really sexy guy" and she just writes this book about it, and there's some things about Edward that are just so specific that it's like, I was just convinced that, that this woman is mad, she's completely mad, and she's in love with her own fictional creation and I -- sometimes you, like, feel uncomfortable reading this thing, and I think a lot of people feel the same way, that it's kind of voyeuristic, ah, and it creates this sick pleasure in a lot of ways."

"I guess their relationship is about projection. That’s what I found interesting about the story. Bella just projects whatever fantasy she wants onto Edward and he’s just a canvas for whatever she wants him to be. No matter what he says or does, it doesn’t matter to her. I guess in that way it’s kind of a fraudulent relationship."


He hates Edward, he hates the books, he hates Smeyer. Yet legit fans, who love Edward, love the books, and love Smeyer, still love him. This is hypocritical, I think. Can anyone explain this to me? Have they just not read these articles or something?


In related news, I want this:

Date: 2009-02-02 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrrrah.livejournal.com
i think i legit like it, but love robert because he hates it. i'm guessing that's because i know i'm a twat for liking it in the first place, agree with everything he says anyway, but still. cannot. stop.
it's a conundrum :[

Date: 2009-02-02 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irradiatedsoup.livejournal.com
See, I'm one of those people who doesnt really like Twilight at all except for the lolz, but I think RPatz shittalking Smeyer is fairly repulsive and tactless, because dude? That book, however crap you think it is, is paying your bills and giving you exposure you would have never had otherwise (I mean lets face it, really, he's not that good an actor).

Date: 2009-02-02 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 021005.livejournal.com
I legit enjoy the books and I am not ashamed to say so!

Also, you totes need to get that shirt hahaha.

Date: 2009-02-03 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookiedough.livejournal.com
I know you do! Do you like RPattz? this is what I am tryingto find out, it is confusing to me. Surely Edward fans dont like him cause of what he says?

Date: 2009-02-04 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 021005.livejournal.com
To be honest, I am completely indifferent when it comes to him. In my mind they could've cast a better Edward, but at the same time I'm content with him. The movie is good and all, but the books are what I like...the movie is just, I don't know...a way of seeing it come to life without taking it too seriously. This doesn't make sense but its getting late, haha.

I think the reason Edward fans like him is because he DOES play Edward well - and he's omg beautiful. (I suppose) and at the end of the day, he is a lolrus.

Besides, its all about Mike Newton! <3

Date: 2009-02-02 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laenij.livejournal.com
Jinx is awesome for shirts!

And I own a copy of Twilight but I never got around to reading it before the fandom blew up, so I never have and probably never will. I do kind of want to see the movie, though.

Date: 2009-02-02 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noisyhearts.livejournal.com
I haaaaaaaate Twilight the book. I can't even like it in a so-bad-it's-funny way, I just hate it. But I don't mind the film. I think Robert and Kristen look good together and I enjoy how much Robert seriously regrets taking the role before reading the script. I fully support the hate of Edward in the book and of Meyer because I hate those things to.

I don't understand how legit fans like him, but then again, I don't understand how legit fans exist.

Date: 2009-02-02 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirfainlasui.livejournal.com
I don't understand how legit fans like him, but then again, I don't understand how legit fans exist.

This, for sure.

Robert insulting the books is probably the only redeeming feature to the whole franchise...

Date: 2009-02-02 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noisyhearts.livejournal.com
That and Mike Newton, yeah.

Date: 2009-02-02 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirfainlasui.livejournal.com
Hahaha but alas, having not seen it yet, I don't even have Mike Newton to improve it!

I hear your a bit stranded? :p

Date: 2009-02-02 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noisyhearts.livejournal.com
Surely we showed you the "s'up arizona. how you likin' the rain girrrrrrl" clip?!

yeah, I am not thrilled about this.

Date: 2009-02-02 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirfainlasui.livejournal.com
I think I was in the room whilst you watched the clip multiple times so I heard it :p I just didn't see it...

Date: 2009-02-02 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princesssheep.livejournal.com
ha sorry to intrude on your comment conversation but apparently this quote is a worldwide phenomenon. by far the best part of the movie.

Date: 2009-02-02 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noisyhearts.livejournal.com
And rightly so! How can that ever be beaten?

Also, I hope you don't mind but I added you. We met at Hoodwink (kind of briefly) and we know a whole load of the same people. I'm Francesca, by the way :)

Date: 2009-02-02 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princesssheep.livejournal.com
Hi, yes, I'm Beth Ann! You've been added back!

Date: 2009-02-02 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claudieko.livejournal.com
idk idk people seem to like his flat face :\

Date: 2009-02-02 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jk-rockin.livejournal.com
I AM STILL IN LOVE WITH THAT SHIRT I AM JUST SAYING.

Aaaaaaaaaaand I just borrowed a friend's copy of New Moon! The Twilulz books, they are hilar, but I refuse to give Smeyer a cent of my money.

Date: 2009-02-02 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avieyal.livejournal.com
wicked shirt! get it get it~

I for one cannot even LOOK at the books. it makes me want to burn them. i think i hate it MORE because so many (WHY??WHY????) people like it.

I now officially term anything bad that gets over-glorified as being a "twilight". rh+ is a twilight. rh+ is a live action adaptation of a VAMPIRE manga. which makes it funnier that its a twlight. (rh+ fails because of the lame acting but the story's alright, though i've never read the manga.)

all "twilights" must possess the quality of either being so bad its funny, or just plain bad, and must MUST have a legit fanbase. or be glorified in general. like. for example. the sun. or something.

Date: 2009-02-02 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princesssheep.livejournal.com
I just got into the books at the end of summer, and once I started reading Twilight, it was all I could think about...like, I read all four books in under two weeks because they were like a drug to me. (My own personal brand of heroin, maybe.) I have never gotten sucked into something that quickly, it was pretty crazy.

That said, I don't really care about the back-story around the books or the movies or anything, I just watched my first interview about the movies when I happened to watch Penelope this weekend and there was a special sneak peek thing. I do think it's kinda dumb that RPattz doesn't like anything about the series, or at least that he's so vocal about it.

I have found, frustratingly, that as I re-read Harry Potter and see Cedric Diggory mentioned, I get a little gooey inside. I don't even like Edward OR Bella, I find them both annoying (so I'm not sure why I'm so addicted to the whole thing), but I find RP attractive in certain scenes as Edward.

Anyway this comment has taken far too long to finish, as I'm at work, so I better stop here or I'll never post it.

Date: 2009-02-02 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anywherewashome.livejournal.com
I legit enjoy Twilight, I think Rob is great as well. To be honest I think it's a bit of a lame arguement...

Sarah and Fran love All Time Low, I can't stand them.. So should I not like Fran and Sarah anymore?

Date: 2009-02-03 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookiedough.livejournal.com
No, it's not like that - it's more direct than that. Besides from like, Harry Potter, people don't have any connection to Rob, he's just the actor that plays Edward.

If people legit love the character Edward, which is fine, what I don't get is how they are not mad at Rob for dissing it.

Date: 2009-02-03 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anywherewashome.livejournal.com
He doesn't have to like Edward, a lot of people don't it's his job and he's entitled to dislike it!

But then that doesn't mean anyone who likes Edward should dislike Rob..

People have opinions, doesn't mean you have to stop liking somebody or stop supporting them if everybody did this nobody would be friends..

Date: 2009-02-04 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 021005.livejournal.com
I don't like Sarah and Fran anymore.

Profile

cookiedough: (Default)
cookiedough

January 2020

S M T W T F S
   1234
567 891011
12131415161718
19202122232425
262728293031 

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags
Page generated Aug. 11th, 2025 04:11 am
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios