Well, allow me to retort.
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"I really, really don't like Natalie/
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cookiedough/crazy stalker girl...seriously, what's her deal? She's a nutcase tbh. Like, firstly she stalks MCR to a point they made their bodyguard BAN her from shows (seriously, no matter how much she/her friends says 'oooh conspiracy', the boys and Worm aren't stupid enough to fall for some idiots telling them stuff, they would have done it from their OWN experiences of her...they're not morons), then she moves onto FOB, TAI...goes off to meet authors 'Gerard loves' but swears lyke she was totez a fan b4 she kn3w dat lawl, now she's moved onto stalking THE USED? Agh. Pathetic, y/y?
And I wonder who she stalked before MCR? Certainly they weren't her first...lol anyone wanna take a guess what band it was? I say Good Charlotte lmao."
anonq, of course.
Okay, you know what? I'm done. Enough. Enough now. The stuff with Maz was just... sickening, and beyond stupid, I don't really want to talk about it, but I don't think this was her. If it was, then, well, Maz, you need to learn to control yourself and leave me the fuck alone. But I don't suspect her.
I am so fucking sick of it that it's not even funny. OBVIOUSLY seeing a band you really, really like, when they happen to come to the country, means you are 'moving on' from loving another band to loving them. OBVIOUSLY you couldn't have possibly been a fan of them as WELL, and been dying to see them but never had.
I liked The Used before I ever knew who MCR were.
And I LOVED Neil Gaiman YEARS before I ever knew who MCR were. I was delighted to hear that Gerard was a fan, I was like 'oooh, he must be a cool geek!' just like I was delighted to hear that Mikey loved Placebo and Blur. The day I hear that I only like Placebo or cause Mikey's a fan... I will probably actually cry.
THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND THE MEN IN MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE.
Shock, horror, I know. Yes, they are some pretty fucking cool guys, with very good taste in books, music, art and films.
That doesn't mean that every MCR fan who happens to be a fan of something one of the guys likes discovered it through the band, or only likes it because they do. But I guess it's got to the point where people want to defend themselves of that, that they have minds of their own. It's like when Panic! took the Dresden Dolls on tour, and the Backstabber video came out - everyone I talked about them to someone who was in the 'scene band fan' communities, like topicless, I felt the need to say 'I didn't discover them through Panic, I've been a fan for years' because I know my interests do NOT all spring from this very small, tight-knit, relativley new scene. People wouldn't assume that I was a fan of something huge - like Lord of the Rings - because Gerard likes it, but take a more obscure thing, like Neil Gaiman or the Dresden Dolls, and OF COURSE I'm only into it because someone in a scene band likes them.
Well, fuck that. I had Neil Gaiman in my LJ interests before I ever heard an MCR record.
As for the other point here - is it not possible to actually be a fan of OTHER BANDS? I still go to every Placebo show that I can afford, because, yes, they, and not MCR as some people assume, are still my favorite band. I've been a fan of the Used for years, and TAI... were one of my favorite bands before I came to the UK. Does the fact that I'm going to their shows mean that I'm 'moving on' from 'stalking' one band to another? Do you all only go see shows of ONE band? I see ALL my favorite bands as much as possible, whenever they're in the same country as I am.
And you know what? I am not the only person in the history of the world to follow a few shows on a tour. I'm never the ONLY ONE doing this. I did 4 dates with TAI... in May. My friends did all 7. Is that stalking? Am I stalking? Are they? Do the band think so? NO. In fact, we were told it was 'awesome'. But whatever. And FOB? The only time I've ever met FOB was in meet and greets and I've been OCK for over a year. Some of my best friends here follow the FOB tours and I've 'stalked' FOB with them for one tour, one whole tour of 3 days. The only other FOB shows I've seen have been London. FULL ON CREEPY STALKAGE.
I love how others can write up the fangirliest reports EVER, about grabbing William's ass when he jumps in the crowd, or Gerard making faces on stage and them 'creaming themselves', and that's not creepy in ANY way, but it's stalking for me seeing a few shows in one tour and talking with the band like they are, shock horror, normal human beings, not things that are just wound up with a key to perform onstage and then put back in a box after the show. Like the very wise Emma once said, there's not a lot of point talking with them about the music all the time, because they see you down on the barrier at all the shows. They KNOW you like the music. So shoot me if I feel comfortable just talking to them normally. They sure as hell don't seem to mind. If a band boy acts acknowledges that he recognises me, I'm not going to pretend that I don't remember meeting him before and just ask for an autograph again and say 'it's so good to meet you'. Give me a break.
The last point I'd like to address here. Since clearly more than one of you have read things in my LOCKED posts and then chosen to laugh about them in anonq, my tattoos. You know what? Fuck you. Do you know why I got a tattoo in Gerard's handwriting? Because I wanted his words tattooed, in every sense of the meaning. I explained that to him and he was cool with it. I had always planned to get that as a matching piece on my other arm - two different sorts of inspiration, two lyrics that I have treated like mantras for a long time. I was much more nervous asking William about it because he's not as crazily intense as Gerard, I thought he might think it was creepy - whereas I was confidant Gerard wouldn't. But even after I checked with William a whole bunch of times, you know what? He said it was great, he was extremly flattered, and said he would have told me if he wasn't cool with it. So fuck you.
You call that creepy? It's not a fucking uncommon concept. The dude in Cry For Silence has a tattoo in Morrissey's handwriting (I think it's the guy in CFS. It might be another band.) People get celebrities SIGNATURES tattooed on them, and THAT I think is creepy. I'm proud of my future tattoo plans, and the fact that I have the full approval and blessing of William about it.
I've deleted a lot of people off here, same will happen to myspace. Everyone who I didn't automatically go 'no, I KNOW it wasn't them' has gone. Sorry if I've offended you or are hurt. Please IM - noendtothelove or email me about it if you feel I've made a mistake.
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And I wonder who she stalked before MCR? Certainly they weren't her first...lol anyone wanna take a guess what band it was? I say Good Charlotte lmao."
anonq, of course.
Okay, you know what? I'm done. Enough. Enough now. The stuff with Maz was just... sickening, and beyond stupid, I don't really want to talk about it, but I don't think this was her. If it was, then, well, Maz, you need to learn to control yourself and leave me the fuck alone. But I don't suspect her.
I am so fucking sick of it that it's not even funny. OBVIOUSLY seeing a band you really, really like, when they happen to come to the country, means you are 'moving on' from loving another band to loving them. OBVIOUSLY you couldn't have possibly been a fan of them as WELL, and been dying to see them but never had.
I liked The Used before I ever knew who MCR were.
And I LOVED Neil Gaiman YEARS before I ever knew who MCR were. I was delighted to hear that Gerard was a fan, I was like 'oooh, he must be a cool geek!' just like I was delighted to hear that Mikey loved Placebo and Blur. The day I hear that I only like Placebo or cause Mikey's a fan... I will probably actually cry.
THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND THE MEN IN MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE.
Shock, horror, I know. Yes, they are some pretty fucking cool guys, with very good taste in books, music, art and films.
That doesn't mean that every MCR fan who happens to be a fan of something one of the guys likes discovered it through the band, or only likes it because they do. But I guess it's got to the point where people want to defend themselves of that, that they have minds of their own. It's like when Panic! took the Dresden Dolls on tour, and the Backstabber video came out - everyone I talked about them to someone who was in the 'scene band fan' communities, like topicless, I felt the need to say 'I didn't discover them through Panic, I've been a fan for years' because I know my interests do NOT all spring from this very small, tight-knit, relativley new scene. People wouldn't assume that I was a fan of something huge - like Lord of the Rings - because Gerard likes it, but take a more obscure thing, like Neil Gaiman or the Dresden Dolls, and OF COURSE I'm only into it because someone in a scene band likes them.
Well, fuck that. I had Neil Gaiman in my LJ interests before I ever heard an MCR record.
As for the other point here - is it not possible to actually be a fan of OTHER BANDS? I still go to every Placebo show that I can afford, because, yes, they, and not MCR as some people assume, are still my favorite band. I've been a fan of the Used for years, and TAI... were one of my favorite bands before I came to the UK. Does the fact that I'm going to their shows mean that I'm 'moving on' from 'stalking' one band to another? Do you all only go see shows of ONE band? I see ALL my favorite bands as much as possible, whenever they're in the same country as I am.
And you know what? I am not the only person in the history of the world to follow a few shows on a tour. I'm never the ONLY ONE doing this. I did 4 dates with TAI... in May. My friends did all 7. Is that stalking? Am I stalking? Are they? Do the band think so? NO. In fact, we were told it was 'awesome'. But whatever. And FOB? The only time I've ever met FOB was in meet and greets and I've been OCK for over a year. Some of my best friends here follow the FOB tours and I've 'stalked' FOB with them for one tour, one whole tour of 3 days. The only other FOB shows I've seen have been London. FULL ON CREEPY STALKAGE.
I love how others can write up the fangirliest reports EVER, about grabbing William's ass when he jumps in the crowd, or Gerard making faces on stage and them 'creaming themselves', and that's not creepy in ANY way, but it's stalking for me seeing a few shows in one tour and talking with the band like they are, shock horror, normal human beings, not things that are just wound up with a key to perform onstage and then put back in a box after the show. Like the very wise Emma once said, there's not a lot of point talking with them about the music all the time, because they see you down on the barrier at all the shows. They KNOW you like the music. So shoot me if I feel comfortable just talking to them normally. They sure as hell don't seem to mind. If a band boy acts acknowledges that he recognises me, I'm not going to pretend that I don't remember meeting him before and just ask for an autograph again and say 'it's so good to meet you'. Give me a break.
The last point I'd like to address here. Since clearly more than one of you have read things in my LOCKED posts and then chosen to laugh about them in anonq, my tattoos. You know what? Fuck you. Do you know why I got a tattoo in Gerard's handwriting? Because I wanted his words tattooed, in every sense of the meaning. I explained that to him and he was cool with it. I had always planned to get that as a matching piece on my other arm - two different sorts of inspiration, two lyrics that I have treated like mantras for a long time. I was much more nervous asking William about it because he's not as crazily intense as Gerard, I thought he might think it was creepy - whereas I was confidant Gerard wouldn't. But even after I checked with William a whole bunch of times, you know what? He said it was great, he was extremly flattered, and said he would have told me if he wasn't cool with it. So fuck you.
You call that creepy? It's not a fucking uncommon concept. The dude in Cry For Silence has a tattoo in Morrissey's handwriting (I think it's the guy in CFS. It might be another band.) People get celebrities SIGNATURES tattooed on them, and THAT I think is creepy. I'm proud of my future tattoo plans, and the fact that I have the full approval and blessing of William about it.
I've deleted a lot of people off here, same will happen to myspace. Everyone who I didn't automatically go 'no, I KNOW it wasn't them' has gone. Sorry if I've offended you or are hurt. Please IM - noendtothelove or email me about it if you feel I've made a mistake.
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Date: 2007-04-15 06:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-04-15 06:17 pm (UTC)I know there's no need for me to say this to you because you know I support you and trust you and such.
It's a shame that you can't even trust the people you consider friends, that's really sad, and I hope the flsit cut helps eliminate some of this crap.
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Date: 2007-04-15 06:31 pm (UTC)tbh, by doing that, they sound like the stalkers.
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Date: 2007-04-15 06:32 pm (UTC)It happened FOREVER ago, just get over it.
That's so stupid that you can't fucking enjoy the bands you love/the things you love because people refer it back to the My Chem thing. No, the world doesn't revolve around them, they seemed to no understand this. I'm sorry this is still going on. And if someone says you like Placebo because of MCR, I'll punch 'em. I know you've loved them before MCR. I met you through a Placebo comm, after all. ;]
I cannot IM/e-mail you, my im isn't working. I'm sad that you'd suspect of saying anything, but I can't force you to keep me. :/
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Date: 2007-04-15 06:40 pm (UTC)I dread to think how many people you cut.
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Date: 2007-04-15 07:10 pm (UTC)i'm sorry for making it a big deal and clogging up your friendspage but after the only person i told EVERYTHING to besides my RL friends posted anon that i should go kill myself like my mother did, i'm rather affected by this. the main issue to me is it's someone on my friendslist, someone relaying things i've written in locked posts. i wouldnt care, if it wasnt for that.
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Date: 2007-04-15 06:59 pm (UTC)Seriously, though, you know I think this is absurd. Thanks for trusting me :)
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Date: 2007-04-15 07:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-04-15 07:18 pm (UTC)And obviously they know exactly how to stalk, as they seem to be doing a great job of it. Honestly, could you have less of a life?
Having just finished reading the whole thing, I think the assholes should simply die. Slowly.
And I don`t blame you for deleting everyone. I would too. Don`t take them seriously. They don`t deserve it.
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Date: 2007-04-15 07:39 pm (UTC)And with regards to fob stalkage - those boys love that shit. And fine I've been called a stalker and a nutjob from people for doing everything I do - but seeing as the band fought for us to be there and still them - and CHARLES run around to fix things then really I think that shows they're cool with everyone involved.
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Date: 2007-04-15 07:53 pm (UTC)All the others are like YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME, THIS IS AWESOME.
I don't get where the hate for people following tours even comes from.
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Date: 2007-04-15 09:10 pm (UTC)People should get over it, seriously. Leave you alone and let you live your life.
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Date: 2007-04-15 09:14 pm (UTC)my humble two pennies worth
Date: 2007-04-15 09:27 pm (UTC)you should have just laid low....
maybe you shouldnt have had to , but even just for a bit of piece.
some of the things that have been said have been really shitty and nobody would deserve that , and some things i have agreed with but
opinions are like assholes , everyones got one.
sticks and stones and all that.
people will keep posting nasty shit , if you keep retalliating.
just my thoughts on the subject
abs x
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Date: 2007-04-15 09:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-04-15 10:01 pm (UTC)I totally agree with you, Apart from Bouncing Souls, all the stuff that I like that the band like is Mere coincidence, I remember getting really annoyed because of it. And having this same conversation with you. I freely admit that I started listening to Bouncing Souls because I was downloading music and listening to the interview where Frank said he loved them and I thought 'might as well'
oh and Baumer because of Mikey but yeah. Bouncing Souls is the only one that matters because I count them as one of my favourite bands.
People wouldn't assume that I was a fan of something huge - like Lord of the Rings - because Gerard likes it, but take a more obscure thing, like Neil Gaiman or the Dresden Dolls, and OF COURSE I'm only into it because someone in a scene band likes them.
I would like tot ake this chance to say that having been a fan of Lord Of The Rings since I was 8, into Neil Gaiman since I read Good Omens (because before that i was a huge Pratchett fan) and Dresden Dolls since I stumbled across them aged about, 16. I know from talks with you that you like them more than you could if you were only saying you liked them because of someone else, I have closer friends than you that do that. It pisses the hell out of me. >: (
OH AND YEAH, I REMINDED NAT ABOUT THE SIGNING B/C I KNEW SHE WAS A FAN.
the only other person I told was Meli, I am very possesive when it comes to limited information :)
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Date: 2007-04-15 11:28 pm (UTC)That doesn't mean that every MCR fan who happens to be a fan of something one of the guys likes discovered it through the band, or only likes it because they do. I agree so hard.
Also, people are pretty fucking pathetic, like everyone has said ^^...this shit is so old and it's horrible you still have to deal with it. You gotta ignore it though dude.
And yeah I don't have time to check friends lists but either way I understand, tbh your sort of, security of mind matters more anyway, if you know what I mean.
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Date: 2007-04-16 05:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-04-16 06:39 pm (UTC)Terry Prachett <3 I love him
Neil is immense, I get totally spazzy about him :]
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Date: 2007-04-15 11:38 pm (UTC)YOU STALKER YOU.
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Date: 2007-04-16 12:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-04-16 01:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-04-16 02:10 am (UTC)but anyway, basically, i said, the stalking thing is bullshit, and if this person is like 'OMG SHE'S MOVING ON' why can't they?
even if the 'moving on' thing is bullshit in itself. seriously though, they should just learn to let it LIE.
anyway, the thing that did anger me about this is that they said you only neil gaiman because of gerard.
excuse me ut, since WHEN does it matter who inspires you to read? oh, never? that's the one.
in all honesty, i totally understand it being sensitive to you though. if someone said to me 'you only like chuck palahniuk because panic! at the disco wrote songs about his books/ adam lazzara is obsessed with him' or 'you only read kurt vonnegut because dallas green wrote songs about his books' i would tell them to shove it and probably have to fight off the urge to strangle them, but whatever. when it comes down to it, it does not matter where you learn about books, as long as you get to experience them.
seriously, you only learn about authors through word of mouth, and SO WHAT if it happened to be through a band member's mouth [i know it wasn't for you but i'm just making my point].
reading is amazing. books are there to be read and loved. not to be scrutinised because omg a FAN read a book that a band likes.
seriously, shock horror, the world ends.
i think, by some odd way in their head, the fact that you like an author that gerard likes CLEARLY means you want to be him.
ummm, yes.
but basically, natalie, you know the truth, you know what's bull and you know what's not. it's just getting out of hand now. i mean, bringing your favourite authors into it? it's just pathetic now.
and as for whoever read here and then spread it all. just urgh.
sorry for the huge comment, i just felt the need. i'm sick of what is just gone way past bullying.
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Date: 2007-04-16 03:41 am (UTC)~j
*hug*
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Date: 2007-04-16 07:35 am (UTC)hahaha lol at you being the 'stalker'. they're the one stalking you.
they need to grow up and get a fucking life instead of bulling you over the internet over something that happened ages ago. It's just immature. I'm sure they have better things to do.
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Date: 2007-04-16 09:32 am (UTC)agreeance.
people are just ridiculously pathetic.
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Date: 2007-04-16 10:26 am (UTC)zomg i must be a psycho-creepy-stalker-fangirl-freak because im doing 6 bayside shows on this tour! ZOMG. and i do the same for mcr.
people can die tbh. god forbid someone might like more than one band. argh.
*hugs*
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Date: 2007-04-16 05:35 pm (UTC)I really hope it all dies down for you... <3
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Date: 2007-04-16 10:03 pm (UTC)BrookeLynn
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Date: 2007-04-29 04:47 pm (UTC)Oh! And I don't talk about you with anyone. I don't even go to that stupid community because I am sooooooooooooooooooo fed up with the drama and stupid shit that keeps getting posted. Overall, I'm just fed up with fandom.
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Date: 2007-05-03 10:33 am (UTC)this fandom is fucking out of control and insane, and unfortunately, there's not much that can be done about it. piss off the wrong crazed person and they'll never let it go.
Maz and the rest of her friends are just nasty little people...as hard as it is, i guess the best course of action would be to just ignore it and pretend like it's not there. tough, yea, but probably better for you in the long run.
people are going to have their ignorant opinions no matter what you tell them, sad as it seems.
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Date: 2007-08-21 11:48 am (UTC)people suck in their judgments of others. sadly, nothing will change that.
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